Editor Q & A: Lennon K Riley

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Introduce yourself! How did you get into editing and what are your qualifications? What genres do you enjoy editing most?
Hi! I’m Lennon. I’ve been editing for 10 years, covering a variety of genres and author working styles. I began professional developmental editing during a workshop for the literary organization in Portland called Literary Arts. Before that, I copyedited for online magazines. I enjoy editing fantasy, romance, and mystery most – in YA and adult.

What is the biggest mistake you see indie writers making right now? (For example, info dumps at the beginning of their book, not enough conflict, too much tell vs. show, etc.)
Lately, I’ve seen structural issues, such as a whole book basically being Act I, either delaying the adventure (Act II) and resolution (Act III) too long or forgetting them completely. I’ve also seen a lot of dialogue that could use improvement. Dialogue that doesn’t sound realistic or consistent with the character.

How do you keep the author’s voice intact while also guiding them with suggestions on how to make their book the best it can be?
When I make a recommendation, I always include “I recommend…” and an explanation for my recommendation. For example, it could be I recommended a change because something with a character was inconsistent, something came off to the reader in a way that the author didn’t intend and I want the author’s intentions to come through on the page, or something was unclear and difficult to follow and I want to help the author clear it up. I ensure the author knows this is a partnership and I only want to help make their work better. I am their biggest fan and none of my edits come from a place of “I think this is bad.” All my edits come from a place of “I love this and I know we can make it the best it can be.”

Is there ever a time when a book requires too much work? What do you tell a writer whose manuscript isn’t ready for a professional edit? What resources do you refer them to?
I just had an author hire me for scene and line edits, but they really needed a developmental edit. I did complete the job for the manuscript, and I included some dev editing suggestions to help them get started on their own – at no extra charge. I also gave them resources on outlining, pacing, character development, how to raise stakes, etc. to help them work on their self-developmental editing.

What advice can you offer an author who can’t afford a professional edit? Are there things they can do to sharpen their own self-editing skills?
Pinterest is a great place to go for free editing resources. Writing blogs have a lot of great information to help authors self-edit, and Pinterest is a centralized location for all of the blog posts out there to be found in one place.

I also offer affordable editing services and payment plans, for those who can’t afford to pay a full sum when they hire me. I recommend getting an editor for at least one round of edits, as there are things that a second pair of eyes will see that no author will be able to. I’m a self-published author and a professional editor, and even I hire an editor for my completed manuscripts. There are just some things I know I won’t see because I am too close to it.

Have you noticed AI writing tools affecting the manuscripts you edit? What are your thoughts on authors using them in the writing process?
I don’t take on any clients who have used AI in their work.

As an editor, it’s important you’re honest and give critical and actionable feedback. How do you offer this feedback so a writer doesn’t take it personally?
I never say “I don’t like this” or “This doesn’t work” or leave any comments that don’t have an explanation and a recommendation. My feedback is always kind, justified, and labeled as a Recommendation. All my edits are simply suggestions. The author has the right to ignore my edits if they disagree, and I don’t take that personally either.

Are there any other tips or thoughts you would like to add about editing or publishing?
Publishing is a rough world right now. If you’re struggling, just know that it isn’t you. If you’ve gotten feedback from professional editors, writing groups, and others in the industry that your story and your writing are good, listen to those voices. It’s really difficult to get published these days as a debut or indie author looking to break into traditional publishing. Things have changed a lot in the last six years. It’s the industry, it’s not you.

And lastly, where can readers find you online?
Readers can go to my website at lennonkriley.com for information on my books, other writings, and my blog giving writing advice and reading recommendations to visitors. They can also find me on Instagram, Threads, and YouTube at @lennonkriley.

Editor Q & A: Sara from Write Way Edits

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Introduce yourself! How did you get into editing and what are your qualifications? What genres do you enjoy editing most?
Hi! I’m Sara, fiction editor and owner of Write Way Edits. I work with authors at different stages of the editing process—from big-picture developmental feedback through to copyediting and proofreading. I love working with fantasy, romance, soft sci-fi, historical fiction, and women’s fiction—and all the subgenres and spice levels. I’ve also worked with authors writing thrillers and memoirs.
I’ve always loved stories and language and dreamed of working for one of the Big Five publishers. In college, I interned with a professor and helped research and edit a political process textbook. After graduation though, life took me in a different direction and I ended up managing a classic car restoration shop.
Editing still found its way into my life. I volunteered with nonprofits and edited business materials, but eventually felt the pull to officially work with words. In 2019, I applied for UC Berkeley’s Professional Sequence in Editing instead of pursuing a master’s program, and I officially launched Write Way Edits in 2024.
I’m committed to continuing my professional development because editing—like writing—is a craft you keep refining over time. I’ve completed multiple courses through organizations like the Editorial Freelancers Association (EFA) and Club Ed, and I aim to complete one to two professional courses every year.

What is the biggest mistake you see indie writers making right now? (For example, info dumps at the beginning of their book, not enough conflict, too much tell vs. show, etc.)
Honestly, editing and writing are pretty subjective. What one reader loves another reader hates. What one writer excels at another writer struggles with. What one editor prefers another editor avoids.
That said, a common developmental issue I encounter often is a weak opening.
Whether you’re querying or self-publishing, the opening pages are your chance to hook the reader and give them a reason to keep reading. If those early chapters are overloaded with background information or focus more on setting the world than introducing the main character, you risk losing your reader before the story really begins.
Another common issue is when the story problem isn’t introduced early enough. The reader doesn’t need to understand everything right away, but they do need a sense that something is happening and that it matters to the main character.
A strong opening usually gives the reader three things fairly quickly: a character to connect with, a sense of the situation they’re in, and the hint of a problem or tension that will drive the story forward.

How do you keep the author’s voice intact while also guiding them with suggestions on how to make their book the best it can be?
One of the most important rules an editor should be following is to never change an author’s voice.
Author A, Author B, and Author C could all write the same story—a gallant knight on a quest to save the beautiful princess from her evil stepmother—and each version would feel completely different. Our life experiences, education, and writing styles shape how we tell stories: the words we choose, the punctuation we favor, how emotions appear on the page, and where we lean more toward showing or telling.
An editor’s job isn’t to rewrite a story but to strengthen it. Before I make any suggestions, I take a step back to understand my motivation for that particular change. Is it simply my personal preference? Is it rooted in my experience and training, industry standards, or reader clarity? Oftentimes what a reader labels as an error is actually a stylistic choice. A good editor recognizes that and makes sure those choices are intentional and consistent throughout the manuscript.
I also try to explain the reasoning behind my suggestions. When authors understand why and how something might be improved, they can better decide whether that change fits with their vision for the story.
At the end of the day, it’s always the author’s book and the author’s decision.

Is there ever a time when a book requires too much work? What do you tell a writer whose manuscript isn’t ready for a professional edit? What resources do you refer them to?
One of the first things I ask authors is what stage their manuscript is in and whether anyone else has had eyes on it yet—alpha readers, beta readers, critique partners, or another editor.
If a first-time author comes to me requesting a developmental edit on a first draft, I’ll usually recommend they go through a few rounds of self-editing first then get feedback from a few beta readers. That outside perspective can help identify bigger story issues before a professional editor comes in. Sometimes I’ll also read a sample and suggest a few areas the author can focus on in their self-edits.
I’m a big believer in focusing each revision pass on a specific element of the story. For example, one pass might focus on structure and plot. Another might focus on the characters, ensuring their choices make sense and their motivations are clear. A later pass might look at pacing or tension. Breaking revision into smaller goals can make the process much more manageable.
I also try to point authors toward helpful resources whenever I can. Over time I’ve built a collection of articles, craft books, and guides from other editors, writers, and organizations that I’m happy to share.

What advice can you offer an author who can’t afford a professional edit? Are there things they can do to sharpen their own self-editing skills?
Self-editing is super important, even when you’re planning to hire a professional editor.
I’m sure everyone is sick of hearing this, but practice really does make perfect. The more you write, the more you learn—not only about writing but about your own habits, strengths, and patterns as a writer.
Another helpful strategy is stepping away from your manuscript for a period of time before revising. Distance helps you come back to the story with fresher eyes and notice things you might have missed before.
Reading your work aloud is also effective. Whether you read it yourself or use tools like Word’s Read Aloud feature, hearing the text makes it much easier to catch awkward phrasing, pacing issues, and repetitive language.
These are some great craft books that focus specifically on revision: Self-Editing for Fiction Writers by Renni Browne and David King; Intuitive Editing by Tiffany Yates Martin; 5 Editors Tackle the 12 Fatal Flaws of Fiction Writing by C. S. Lakin, Linda S. Clare, Christy Distler, Robin Patchen, and Rachel Starr Thomson.

Have you noticed AI writing tools affecting the manuscripts you edit? What are your thoughts on authors using them in the writing process?
I don’t think generative AI has any place in creative spaces, so the authors I interact and work with are also anti-generative AI. I include a section in my contract that states I reserve the right to refuse to work on a manuscript written with the help of a generative AI tool, and I will never use generative AI in my editing process.
But just because I want nothing to do with generative AI doesn’t mean that there aren’t authors using these tools to aid them in their writing. Some use them for brainstorming ideas or organizing their thoughts. I have mixed feelings about this, honestly. On the one hand, I understand these authors’ arguments for needing something to help them organize the creative jumble in their brains. On the other, scientific studies are proving that a reliance on generative AI tools like ChatGPT is leading to intellectual laziness and a decline in reading comprehension, literacy, and logic skills.
I’ve also seen some authors use ChatGPT in place of beta readers or editors. The issue with this is that generative AI has no capacity to actually understand human emotions. It bases “revisions” on other authors’ works—aka, theft—and doesn’t have the ability to make editorial decisions based on stylistic choice vs grammar “rule.” As much as people tout that ChatGPT can “learn your voice / style,” it always reverts back to generic styles and specific patterns of language. It also hallucinates “facts” and sources. (And it’s killing our environment and targeting marginalized communities, but that’s a rant for another time.)
Now assistive AI, on the other hand, is a great asset. (Think spellcheck, basic Grammarly, and Speechify and other accessibility tools.) And if a generative AI tool enters the landscape that sources its information ethically and doesn’t contribute to the doom of our planet, I’ll give it a try and see if it’s up to the task of actually helping writers. Until then, I’ll stick to human writers, artists, and editors.

As an editor, it’s important you’re honest and give critical and actionable feedback. How do you offer this feedback so a writer doesn’t take it personally?
When I was in college, I briefly considered becoming a teacher—until I realized my tendency to say the word “fuck” in every other sentence would probably slow down my career advancement.
Even though I didn’t go into teaching, that instinct to explain and guide people stuck with me. I’m also a mother, which involves a lot of teaching (and learning) every single day.
Those experiences shape the way I approach editing. Whenever possible, I ask authors how much explanation they’d like during the edit, whether they prefer deeper comments and guidance or a lighter touch. Editing isn’t about tearing a manuscript apart or telling an author how to write their story better; it’s about working with an author toward the same goal: making the story stronger.
My feedback is always specific and actionable. I don’t just say “fix this” or “this is wrong.” That’s not helpful for anyone. Instead, I explain what the issue is (or might be) and suggest ways it could be improved or strengthened. When it’s helpful, I’ll even include an example revision to demonstrate what I mean—though the author is always free to ignore it or take the idea in a completely different direction.
I also make a point to highlight what’s already working well. Every story has strengths, and it’s important for authors to know what readers are likely to connect with just as much as where the manuscript could improve.

Are there any other tips or thoughts you would like to add about editing or publishing?
Editing is part of the creative process, not a sign that you’re doing something wrong.
Even NYT bestsellers go through multiple rounds of editing before publication.
The most important thing is to stay curious about the writing and editing process and remember that every draft teaches you something new about the story you’re telling and the craft of writing itself.

And lastly, where can readers find you online?
You can find me at:
Website: www.writewayedits.com
Instagram / Threads / Pinterest: @writewayedits
I’m also revamping my blog, Coffee-Stained Pages (https://writewayedits.com/blog/) and sharing thoughts and resources via my newsletter, The Editor’s Brew (https://writewayedits.kit.com/posts)

Monday Musings: Mixed Bag

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There was a lot of stuff on my mind last week and over the weekend. Things that I saw online that bothered me, things that pertain to the publishing industry that bothered other people, and content for this blog. None of it’s bad… just stuff I simmer about while I’m taking a shower because I’m not writing a new book right now so something has to go through my head while I’m shaving. Yes, if you’re curious, I do shave all year around. I cannot stand being prickly. Anyway, we don’t need to get into that. The point is, if I’m not writing scenes in my head, there’s a lot of space in there for other things. And really, it doesn’t help that I scroll Threads while I’m drinking my morning coffee and trying to wake up. It just sets the rage-y tone for the rest of the day. That might not be a bad thing. I mean, how many of us just keep going out of spite? But, it can get a little tiring too. If you’re wondering if there’s a point to this, yes, there is, thank you for asking.

Spring is here, and for once it actually looks like Spring in my part of Minnesota. It’s dirty and wet, and big, grimy piles of snow are all that’s left. But, it’s proof that we made it through the blizzards and the wind chills. There’s something about the warmer temperatures and the sun shining that lets you breathe a little bit, and the longer days–of sunlight, I mean–aren’t so depressing. Not that I mind the dark so much. But you know, Spring is just a different vibe and it’s nice to get some fresh air in here after the windows have been frozen shut for four months.

Author Update
Not much has changed for me since last week–the second (and hopefully last) proof for Wicked Games came so when I have longer than a minute I can look over the formatting changes I did (I had blog posts and interviews in there that look better set off from the regular text) and make sure the cover is how I want it.

I’ve been making slow progress on my Cedar Hill Duet, but they are going to ✨ shine ✨ when I’m done. It’s always an aggravated pride when I re-edit a book. I’m annoyed I had to do it in the first place but I’m proud that I took the time. It’s strange, but I’ll be happy when those are done and republished with new covers. Proofing the proofs is slow going though, and new files probably won’t be ready until the end of April. It just takes a long time because I fight with myself between my natural voice and style and the conversational tone I’m now aiming for, but, fortunately, I’m not finding many actual typos. Just still smoothing out prose and finding the occasional discrepancy. Chunking out a timeline is a lot easier on paper. So, progress doesn’t feel like it’s being made, but it is, even if I’m grumbling about the whole thing.

It’s okay to have help
One of the things I saw on Threads the other day made me mad. She was saying how getting feedback and brainstorming was essentially “outsourcing” a skill writers need to learn for themselves. She brought AI into the mix because apparently she had read something where a writer used AI as a brainstorming partner. I disagree with her on so many levels. Not the AI part–I have chosen to be Switzerland when it comes to that–but the part where if writers ask for help, they’re keeping themselves from learning craft. I’m not quite sure where she came up with that idea, but seeing it on Threads made me mad and a little sad, too. New writers don’t need to be told that if they can’t do it alone they’re not building their skills. Writing is already so lonely.

So, yes, I think it is okay to have help. Get developmental feedback from an editor or beta reader. Brainstorm plots and twists with a fellow author. Read that craft book. Look up lists of tropes and mini-tropes for inspiration. My reader magnet exists because a long time ago back when she was on Twitter, Zoe York tweeted a list of tropes that included “ugly duckling.” It intrigued me–how could I write a MMC that didn’t sound like an arrogant, shallow bastard–and I wrote a whole book around it. Brainstorming with peers, reading craft books, and reading in your genre is how we learn. On top of writing and writing and more writing. It doesn’t matter where you get help, be it a friend or a writing class, you still have to sit down and write. But having support and someone to turn to if you’re stuck makes it a lot easier. There are a lot of gross takes out there, and yeah, I guess AI hasn’t helped, but pre-AI, there were always plot generators, trope lists, and writing prompts. I have no idea where all of a sudden having outside resources helping you write your novel is bad, but writing isn’t done in a vacuum and never has been. You can find a simple and fun plot generator here. I would mess around with it, but I have enough on my plate as it is. Likely, I have enough projects to keep me going until 2030. https://artisthu.com/plot-idea-generator/

Goodreads’ New DNF Shelf
This is another subject that came up last week on socials. Apparently Goodreads created a Did Not Finish (DNF) shelf for their users. Authors were a little perturbed by it, but I don’t see the harm. What does it really matter if readers don’t finish a book? I know authors wouldn’t like to see one of their books on that shelf, but more and more people read by mood, and I could see a DNF shelf turn into a Come Back Later shelf instead. I also think that authors just forget, or don’t want to admit, the sheer number of books out there right now, and readers don’t have to push through a book that doesn’t grab them.

I feel guilty if I don’t finish a book, so I usually try, even if that means skimming until I reach the end. I have to at least read the last chapter to know how the couple gets their HEA. Why I start skimming varies, but my top reason for skipping to the end is that there’s not enough male POV. I remember a while back that I really wanted to read a book two in a series. The premise sounded good, but being who I am, I needed to read book one first. Even though it was “dual” POV, there were too many FMC chapters in a row, and I didn’t keep reading. Unfortunately, I just figured that the author preferred writing the FMC POV and I didn’t make it to book two. You’re never going to please every reader, that’s just a fact, and whale readers will always keep track of their books. That’s just a fact too. Goodreads doesn’t tell you what readers are doing with your books, so it’s better just not to hunt for information you don’t want to know in the first place. If you want to read a little more about the DNF shelf on Goodreads, you can do it here: https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/entertainment/books/a70504162/goodreads-dnf-shelf/

Editor Series
A couple of weeks ago, I asked on Threads if there were any editors who would be willing to answer some questions about what it’s like editing for indies, common mistakes they see, their take on AI, etc. I got quite a few responses, unlike when I tried on Twitter a few years ago. So, I’m happy to say that I will be able to start posting those interviews starting next week! I like the idea of it because it seems like editing is a necessary evil. It’s expensive, you don’t know who to trust, and you need to find someone who’s a good fit. I’m hoping that these interviews will shed a little light on the process and maybe you’ll find your next editor.

I’m not going to post them all in a row, though. I think you would get tired of them, and you know me. I have too many opinions to be quiet for that long. So, I’m going to post one a month starting next week. I hope you enjoy reading their responses as much as I did!

That is all I have for today. Lots of talk about the Shy Girl debacle, but I really don’t have a lot to say on it. AI is everywhere, it’s not going away, and we just have to try to find our way around it. People are going to use it to write, authors are going to use it to edit, brainstorm, and research, and I’m not saying we have to live with it, but until there’s an infallible way to identify AI writing, it’s going to exist in the industry. If you want to read the Times’ article, you can here, and hat tip and big thank you to Cat Johnson and to various others on Threads for the gift link.

Have a great week!

Monday Musings: Author Update and Paring Back

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Happy March! 🌸 🌼 🌺

February was probably one of the longest months of my life. When I decided to re-edit and re-cover my Cedar Hill Duet, I was really excited. They were the first books I published when I started my new pen name (though not the first books I wrote in first person POV–that honor belongs to my King’s Crossing serial) and I was really proud of the stories. I watched hours of construction site accidents on YouTube so I could write Rick’s accident accurately. I even tweeted about them when I was on Twitter, something I rarely did, and sold a few copies.

Re-editing book one was fine. There were grammar mistakes and the normal typo, a couple of missing Ts because my Mac’s keyboard was bad. A few missing words here and there because like most writers, I think faster than I type. I edited it in a couple of weeks. Then I went on to the second book. I don’t know what happened, but I ended up taking out about 3,000 words and practically rewrote the stupid thing sentence by sentence. Pretty similar to what I did with Faking Forever when I re-edited that last summer. It was agonizing. So much over-writing and “big” words that sucked you right out of the story. So, it took me a really long time, and I was really glad when I was done with it. I updated all the front and back matter, and updated my author bio in the backs. Updated my blog information since I still was running a newsletter back then. (Just the wording, though, not the links. Don’t ever put an aggregator’s landing page in your back matter! Direct everyone to your website. It will save a lot of headaches later.) Re-did the covers and uploaded those too. When I was inside my KDP dashboard, I updated my keywords, though I couldn’t do much with my categories. Contemporary romance and billionaire romance is pretty accurate, so nothing needed changing there.

Sadly, I came to a realization. Those books weren’t very well-written. Not on a macro-level like story or character arcs, but on a micro, line-level basis. And after re-editing Faking Forever, Rescue Me, and A Heartache for Christmas, I don’t have to wonder why I wasn’t selling books. You can sell one bad book. Maybe even get readers to read it. But they won’t go on to read your backlist. And this is true for any author, not just me. There’s too much content out there for readers to put up with anything they don’t like. Purple prose. Nope. Words they don’t understand. Nope. Over-explaining or over-describing. Nope. I’m not saying my books had all those things. I don’t write long, meandering prose–I just get wordy in areas where less is better.

I didn’t do any New Year predictions on the blog this year, mostly because one year is the same as the next, but I can put this out there: with how much content there is, first impressions are going to be more important than ever. Your cover, title, and blurb have always been important, but if the Look Inside is flat, doesn’t introduce characters, doesn’t have anything happening, readers won’t buy. And if the rest of the book doesn’t meet expectations, they won’t read any more of your books. Maybe it’s always been that way, but it seems like ten years ago a reader would be willing to give you a second chance. Not so much today. You can tell me if I’m wrong.

It’s taken me a long time to figure out why I haven’t been able to scale. And that’s why. I can sell a standalone or a trilogy but I’m not turning those readers into fans. And I don’t even mean fans foaming at the mouth, rabid for my next release. I mean people who see I have a new book out and say, “Cool. Let me pick it up.” Because I wasn’t meeting expectations.

The why doesn’t matter because I’ll just beat myself up. I wasn’t feeling good, couldn’t afford an editor, and the beta readers that I used didn’t help that much, blah blah blah. I was blind to my own writing flaws, which is common. I wrote a lot and grew a lot (and I also feel better, thank goodness!), so obviously, I’m not the same person I was in 2022 when I published my duet. What matters now is taking time to go back and fixing those books while still writing books that sound better.

It’s like walking on a tightrope–making my books sound more casual and conversational without sacrificing my voice and style. Even now, I’m reading my proof of Wicked Games, and the “bigger” words, like “suffice,” slip by me because they’re natural to use. So I don’t want to change how I write, I just want to sound like a better version of what I’ve been writing all this time. The more accessible your writing, the more people who can and will read it. But that means being conscious of the choices I’m making when I decide to change something. Can I use “difficult” or should I use “hard?” They mean the same thing in certain contexts, but how does my character speak? How do I speak in real life? How do I put how I am and how I write together with what’s selling and what readers are comfortable reading? It’s something I’ve thought a lot about in the past year or so, especially when I was editing A Heartache for Christmas. I blogged a bit about it here: When Dumbing Down Your Writing Isn’t Dumb.

I’d like to stay on a forward path, even while I’m cleaning up my backlist, so the next few months are going to look like this:

*Get Wicked Games ready to go (reading the proof, entering changes, ordering another proof, and putting up ARCs) for its May release.
*Read the proofs for my Cedar Hill Duet. They’ll be here soon and I want to make sure all the changes I made sound good. I’m hoping it will only take a week per book, but we’ll see.
*Write my hockey duet. I’m really excited to get going on those, especially since I announced to my readers that hockey was coming.
*While those breathe before the first editing pass, I’ll re-edit my Lost & Found Trilogy. Those don’t need new covers, but I’d like to swap out the man on the first book. I like his suit, but I don’t feel he’s very handsome in a conventional way, so I’d like to change him. Those books have been re-edited before, but this sweep would focus on language (lofty prose vs. conversational) just so they don’t sound so snooty. There’s a small chance they don’t sound that bad, and that editing them won’t be as hard as Faking Forever or Addicted to Her.
*Do an editing sweep of my hockey duet.
*Get Bitter Love ready to publish.

I think it’s safe to say that will put me into the middle of 2027, if not the end of the year because writing my hockey duet will take me a while, and if my Lost & Found Trilogy sounds bad, each book will take me weeks. I’m not sure when I’ll publish after Wicked Games comes out in May. Maybe I won’t publish anything else until 2027, or I might get antsy and publish Bitter Love in November or December, even if it’s not a holiday romance. I’d like to try to publish two books a year, but I’m still trying to push back the idea my books are a business. I break even every year and that’s the best I hope to do. Writing and publishing is a hobby I enjoy doing. While I’ll still take this seriously because if you expect people to give you money for something you made, you should, but things are different, times are different, and if I want to binge the new season of Bridgerton, I don’t want to feel guilty or think the time is wasted. I still fight the compulsion to work as hard and as fast as I can–I get twitchy when real life interferes with too much of my free time–but there’s nothing to gain and it’s just something I have to remind myself of often.

Anyway, I left a Facebook group the other day because someone was posting about how awesome it was they asked Al to create a graphic for a book blast. They posted the graphic too. It was nothing spectacular, and I just thought, “Come on.” I could have made that in five minutes in Canva with a real photo. I understand the working smarter bit, I really do, but is that working smarter or pushing off a task you can do yourself? I put energy, effort, and integrity into what I care about, and I thought if that’s what that group is going to be promoting now, I’ll leave. I’m in Canva every day. Making posts for Pinterest or a graphic for IG, and with their templates, making a book blast promo takes no time at all. I don’t think I’m going to miss much not being in that group, but I may need to look for other publishing groups where I can find out industry news. I like knowing what’s going on. It’s always helpful so you’re not blindsided by something that affects you later. (And I don’t think it needs to be said, but please check with book blast organizers before offering AI content. Some organizers don’t want to be associated with it in any way. So please be respectful of their time in putting the blast together.)

Maybe this is the year I pare back, because when I was on Facebook being annoyed that people can’t make their own graphics, I also blocked all my day-job coworkers. Working with them didn’t make them friends, and I felt a lot lighter after I was done. I took their numbers out of my phone too, and that felt just as good. Next on my list is some serious spring cleaning. I’ve slowly been getting rid of clothes and odds and ends as I have felt better, but I need to move some things out of the apartment and into our storage unit. The clutter, especially now that we have Pim and the apartment has turned her playground, is really getting me down. It will be nice to have some closet space.

That’s all from me today. I hope you have an amazing Monday! Happy March. 🍀 The first day of spring is in eighteen days, and I need the sun. ☀️

Take care, and talk to you next week!

A Culture of Distraction

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a woman washing dishes while watching something on a tablet

text says a culture of distraction on green box

I used to watch Sullivan’s Crossing. I say “used to” because I kind of bailed on the show like I do most shows I watch. I get bored or I’d rather work on my books. I might go back to Sullivan’s Crossing at some point, if there’s nothing else to watch, but I mostly stopped because I hated the way Maggie and Sydney treated the men who liked them, or, in romance-novel speak, their love interests. I know the show writers just wanted to devise drama for the plot, but even knowing that didn’t stop me curling my lip whenever one of their scenes came on.

I went into that because everything in the universe is connected, and I started getting emails from Reddit about people talking about that show. I engaged a little bit, enough to know that I’m not alone in my dislike and my reasons why. But there was also one exchange that I’d like to show you here:

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Squishy1011

Does anyone else wonder why they are still watching and press next episode anyway?
This show has some of the laziest writing, ever! One of my pet peeves is how often the characters say ‘besides’ - no one actually says it in real life. It’s like neighbours reproduced by an amdram group! All of the actors are beautiful but the make up is all the wrong shade for all of them! Then I find myself singing ‘time and time and time again!’ As the next episode blares out. I am also acutely aware I’ll be so sad when it’s finished. I’ve never had such conflicting feelings for a show before!

ndftba
It's really comfy to watch, like you don't have to focus so much, or make up theories. It's just relaxed drama.

pearly1979
i like shows sometimes that are mind of mindless. The scenery is gorgeous and there is serious eye candy as well. I do a lot of crafting and knitting hats, so its a show i can watch while doing that and not be bummed if I miss something lol.

My mind went in a couple of different ways when I read that. The first was, why are you watching something you really don’t want to watch, and second, as a romance author, I felt bad for Robyn Carr (who wrote the books Sullivan’s Crossing is based on) and the producers of this show. No one wants to be told that their content is “kind of mindless” or is made up of lazy writing.

We’re living in an age where our attention is constantly split between two or even more things. TV shows turn into background noise while we do chores or cook, we scroll on our phones when we shouldn’t like at a movie theater and behind the wheel, or we have a conversation with someone on speakerphone or FaceTime while we shop. It’s almost like if you do one thing at a time you’re failing at life.

I think what bothers me the most when it comes to talking about distraction and split attention is the lack of respect that goes along with it. What do I mean by that? I’ll tell you a little story.

Two years ago I hired my last beta reader. I didn’t pay her very much, but I was supposed to be helping her set up a beta reading service, so it was a win-win situation for both of us. I paid her and emailed her my manuscripts. She was an avid reader and I had known her for a long time, so while I felt a bit apprehensive because we’d had some conflicts in the past, I pushed them aside. She did read, but occasionally I’d get messages like, “At the auto shop waiting with my husband and reading your book,” or “On a road trip with the family, reading your book,” and I started to wonder just how much attention was she giving my story. It turns out she missed an important callback that resulted in some skewed feedback. Meaning, she forgot what a character said, or possibly missed it completely, which made what another character said later in the book not make sense to her. I didn’t need a math degree to put two and two together. She was reading while she was distracted.

Needless to say, I was pretty disappointed. Since then I haven’t bothered to find other beta readers or give my manuscripts to anyone else. I realized that no feedback is better than bad feedback and we can’t always guarantee that our money is going to pay for quality.

When you’re a new writer, accurate feedback is really important. You’re still learning and leveling up your craft depends on useful, thoughtful, and relevant critique. What is a new writer going to do if they can’t find someone who’s willing to actually sit down in a quiet space and give their words the attention they deserve? And why offer to beta read or help someone if you’re not going to do the work that’s required and expected? I’ve seen other beta readers say they’re settling down to beta read a client’s work and that they’re reading with the TV on for background noise. I can understand if that’s part your process, but not everything needs to put online. If you’re charging the going rate to beta read or edit for someone, it might be better to keep that kind of detail to yourself.

When people don’t pay attention while reading they can come back with questions, accusations, or even complaints, and an author can lose confidence that their writing is good and that plots and character arcs make sense. Books require a person to be present while they consume those words or the meaning, nuance, and themes can get missed entirely. Is that going to be the author’s fault? Was the plot too complicated? Were the characters too complex? Was the prose too purple? How is an author going to know? Maybe the real reason that reader couldn’t follow what was going on was because she was playing Bingo with her grandma at the VFW. I mean, things happen.

Distraction is also bad news on the author side. I used to be able to listen to music while I wrote, but I can’t do that anymore. I start listening to the song instead of writing, and now when I have a writing or editing session, I do it in silence. Sometimes I’ll pick up my phone and scroll, and I’ll ask myself if I’m going to write/edit or scroll because I can’t do both. That’s enough to get me to put my phone in another room and focus on the task at hand. Editing while distracted is just an invitation to edit more typos into your manuscript rather than fix what’s already there. Readers deserve respect because they invest in an author’s work twofold: they pay to read and give hours of their time as well. The last thing an author needs is a reader saying, “What was that?” at the end of their book because a main character had five careers, her hair changed colors six times, and there’s a plot hole big enough for the Grand Canyon to fall through. The setting of Sullivan’s Crossing is beautiful, but it’s not that important.

That’s not to say that a comfort watch is invalid. In these times finding comfort and a little peace where you can is more important than ever. Being able to sit and watch something relaxing is critical to mental health. Our brains aren’t meant to work twenty-four hours a day, seven days week, and authors and writers are often encouraged to take a break and fill their creative wells. Maybe that means doomscrolling while sitting through bland dialogue and watching a shirtless and sweaty Chad Michael Murray chop wood. But that doesn’t mean every show on TV needs to be that way and dumbing down scripts and books isn’t the answer to a culture that’s becoming used to doing two or three things at once.

What is the answer then? I’m not sure. I’m at a place in my career where going without feedback isn’t ideal, but having beta readers who will read with only one eye on the paper isn’t any better. We can’t police how people live, and putting a clause in a contract asking people to please don’t beta read or edit while watching TV or playing Bingo probably won’t work. People will do what they’re gonna do. But I don’t think it’s wrong to expect the service providers you pay to give you quality. Important callbacks, breadcrumbs, twisty plots, and complicated character arcs demand attention, not someone singing the theme song to Sullivan’s Crossing under their breath while they read.

What made me think of this topic was the Substack article I read a couple of weeks ago, https://thecreativegood.substack.com/p/what-is-second-screening-and-why, about screenwriters at a certain streaming service being asked to dumb down their writing. People scroll on their phones while they watch TV causing them to miss important details during a show. This article reinforced what has already been circling in my brain for a while now, especially when it comes to long serials and series where it’s imperative that readers pay attention from the very first page so the very last page makes sense.

In the article Jamie Feldman argues that dumbing down isn’t the answer, and of course it’s not. We can’t dumb down everything to appeal to the people who can’t put down their phones because that means people who do want to invest time and attention in a murder investigation or kidnapping case will get left behind. There will always be people who want to turn their phones off and get lost in a world to forget their own for a little bit, and those are the people who we should create for. If that’s who you want to create for. Maybe Robyn Carr doesn’t care the show based on her books is considered “mindless comfort.” She’s getting paid either way regardless.

I’ll keep writing my twisty books and it will be a reader’s loss if they’re distracted and can’t connect the dots. I’m not going to take responsibility for someone’s lack of focus and I won’t take feedback personally. Maybe one of the most important rules in writing craft is to trust your reader, and I will. I will trust them to remember what a character said on page 100 so the callback on page 300 makes sense. And if a reader decides my books are too complicated, they can self-select out and find lighter fare. That’s completely reasonable and won’t hurt my feelings at all. There are an unlimited number of readers out there and an author for everyone to enjoy.

There’s a time and a place for split attention, and only you can decide when and where that is. I’ll keep my attention on things that matter: my books and projects and the books and projects I help other people with. No matter how tempting Sullivan’s Crossing‘s eye candy is.

If you read Jamie’s Substack article, tell me what you think of it. The idea of dumbing down content to appeal to distracted consumers is interesting and I’d love to start a conversation in the comments.

Have a great week, everyone. See you next Monday!

Four Things I Learned Editing My King’s Crossing and Rocky Point Wedding Series

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For the past several months, from October of 2023 right after I published A Heartache for Christmas until January of this year, I was editing. I was editing my King’s Crossing Series, doing the final editing passes since I had sat on those books for over three years after I wrote them, and my Rocky Point Wedding series since I hadn’t looked at them since I published at the beginning of 2020. After so much time had gone by, I knew they could be better, and since a few people here and there were finding them, I thought while I was between projects, it would be a good time to edit them again.

But, editing ten books in a row dragged me down, so much so I didn’t even realize how icky I was feeling until those projects were finished and I started having fun writing again. Huge projects are a lot of work, especially when you don’t have help. My Rocky Point Wedding series might not have needed more editing if I’d had help in the first place, on the other hand, a lot of time had gone by and a lot of words too, so I was bound to get better regardless.

Since I doubt I’ll ever edit ten books back to back again, I thought I’d write out the four things I learned while editing these books.

Time between edits is really helpful.
When I wasn’t feeling well, I wrote nonstop. I would finish a book and move on to the next with barely a break. Before I knew it, I had several books on my computer and a different kind of anxiety started weighing on me. What was I going to do with all those books? So, while I was writing, in a way, I was taking a break from the others I had written before. I think my King’s Crossing books benefited the most from that because each time I did an editing sweep, I added more details I hadn’t thought of before and fixed inconsistencies I missed. As more time went by and I could edit with fresh eyes, I was able to fix the smaller and more intricate details and inconsistencies. I once said that something small in book two could have damning consequences in book four, but for me to remember that incident, I needed space between editing sweeps. Not everyone is going to take four years to edit a series, and I didn’t really, either, writing new books between editing sessions, but knowing how beneficial breaks can be, I’m going to try to stagger projects in the future so every editing sweep will feel “new.”

I had to develop a better memory.
Maybe it’s easier to write standalones, but while I was writing my King’s Crossing series it was difficult to remember things, and it might sound dumb, but you don’t remember what you forgot. When I was re-editing my Rocky Point Wedding series, I found a lot of places where I had forgotten things, like where a character parked her car, or when a character was supposed to be somewhere and I had him somewhere else. Also, characters had a habit of just “fading away” when I didn’t need them anymore. I was actually kind of surprised I messed that up so badly, and I could tell I learned a lot from editing my King’s Crossing series as those discrepancies were easy to spot. If you don’t have a good memory, you’re going to have to hire someone who does. I told a friend that by the time I was done editing my King’s Crossing series, I pretty much had all the books memorized. After editing them back to back three times in a row, I don’t think I had much of a choice. Now I think I have a better memory than before, though right now I’m only working on standalones and I don’t think I ever had a problem with those. I’ve gone through the standalones I have out and those were more of a garbage word sweep than anything else, maybe plumping up some scenes. But yeah, I definitely found out my memory wasn’t as great as I thought it was, but I can take steps to help with that now that I know.

Putting inside information into the books was a lot of fun, some I didn’t even consider until the fourth or fifth edit.
Probably what I loved best as I was getting to know the plot and the characters more was putting connected information from books 1-3 into books 4-6 . For instance, there’s a place in book six where Gage thinks, I bet Zane’s never gone through the public entrance of the airport, but we know in book three he did with Stella. What I loved was writing Max’s journal entries that Gage reads in books 4-6 that Max, as a character in books 1-3, wrote down. I really enjoyed writing the events of those books through Max’s eyes only for them to be interpreted into information Gage needed in books 4-6. I’m not sure if I would have even thought to do some of that stuff if it hadn’t been for the multiple rounds of editing those books went through. One of my biggest pleasures was when in book six, they need to go across the state in a hurry, and in the past Zane would drive. We didn’t really understand his fear of flying because of his parents’ plane crash until he says he’d get on a plane to save his sister.

I could tell I pantsed my King’s Crossing series a lot more than I did other books I’ve written.
I think one of the things I did the most was smooth out consistency issues, and maybe not even issues, just adding details to make books 1-3 and books 4-6 more cohesive. Because I didn’t realize that Zarah was going to get her own story until almost the very last second, that meant a lot of smoothing out books 1-3, adding details and motivations of characters to better explain what was going on. That was especially true of Max, when they didn’t really know why he was investigating Zane and Zarah’s parents’ plane crash, and the reasons he was come up in the later books.

I remember plotting out all the books in my Rocky Point series before I started writing, so the plot stuff there wasn’t too big of an issue while I was editing those, and I was happy about that. I did have one instance where I messed up and I had a character say he was doing something when he definitely was not. That was part of my memory issue too, but besides having to fix that, the plots were solid. I don’t like pantsing books because for me it takes a lot of work to edit them, but even if I had to put a lot of time into my King’s Crossing series, it was worth it in the end.


A friend and I were talking about series and how I keep details straight. Short of memorizing every single line of every single book, I really didn’t have an answer because that’s what I felt like I did, at least to the point I knew exactly the sentence to search for to get to the scene I needed to check something. I used a notebook at times, writing stuff down, but then I would never look at it again, so I don’t think writing anything down really helped me all that much. When I first decide to start a book, I write down character names and traits, that kind of thing, but once you’re five books deep into a series, that stuff doesn’t come up too often. I mean, once you establish a character’s eyes are blue, you don’t need to keep repeating it.

I think over such a long series, I had trouble more with keeping characters’ goals and motivations in check. For instance, Zarah’s therapist turns out to be a bad person, but I was vague as to how she came to be Zarah’s therapist to begin with. Once her therapist’s role became even more apparent, I could think of how she inserted herself into Zarah’s life. I’m hesitant to say that some of this stuff could have been avoided if I had written slower because I did write six books in a little over a year, and maybe that’s true, but these books were also the first 1st person dual POV books I ever wrote, so not only did I jump into a huge series, I hadn’t taken the time to learn how to write in first person after writing in 3rd all my life.

I haven’t gotten feedback on the series as a whole yet–books five and six have yet to release, and even though they were all available on Booksprout, the reviewers haven’t posted reviews of book six because it’s not time for them to. Only when feedback starts to come in of book six will I know if the series as a whole works. Probably everyone I ever tell I did these alone will think I’m crazy, but as prices go up and up, editing will be farther and farther out of a reach for a lot of authors. Which is unfortunate because if you don’t have the skill to edit your books yourself, there’s not a lot out there that can compare to a human’s feedback. ProWritingAid can only do so much, and no matter how “smart” Al is, this is just a level of editing he can’t handle.

I don’t know what the solution is. I had these beta read, both series, but you’re not going to get the kind of feedback you need to avoid inconsistencies like that unless you hire the right kind of editor and that costs. If I have to give any advice on doing something like this alone, it would be to plot, take your time writing, and give yourself plenty of space to edit, and then, when all is said and done, be okay with knowing you might not have caught everything. There probably are a couple things I missed editing my King’s Crossing series. Layers I could have added, details that would have made the story richer, but like with any book, you can’t chase perfect or you’ll never publish. That’s the simple truth.

If you’re thinking of writing a series or if you have trouble plotting in general and want to give it a try, I have a couple of resources for you (none of them are affiliate links). Next week I’ll do a proper author update, and the week after that I have a lovely interview planned with Brandi Easterling Collins.

Have a good week! Until next time!


Romance Your Brand: Building a Marketable Genre Fiction Series (Publishing How To Book 1) by Zoe York: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07XMDKV1Y

Take Off Your Pants!: Outline Your Books for Faster, Better Writing: Revised Edition by Libby Hawker: https://www.amazon.com/Take-Off-Your-Pants-Outline-ebook/dp/B00UKC0GHA

Melody Loomis: How to outline a novel when you don’t know what’s going to happen:

Melody also said I could share this graphic with you. She found the original via Priscilla Oliveras’s “Romance Writing” course and you can find it here: https://www.ed2go.com/courses/writing/writing-and-editing/ilc/romance-writing. She added a couple of things and so did I. Have fun filling it in–I’ve only used a notebook to write all these things down, but maybe I will try this instead. Have fun plotting:

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Policing Other People’s Work

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This isn’t as fun as it looks.

One thing that has always puzzled me about authors is their need to police other people’s work. I see it all the time, from the authors who defend their right to leave bad reviews (thinking they’ll teach that author how to write correctly) to people who are loud and proud about the books they do not finish (DNF) for whatever reason. I came across this jewel the other day, and I gave myself a cookie for not responding:

genuine question for kindle unlimited authors: does reporting typos through the content error box ding you in any way? Is there a better way to report mistakes?

Picture of reporting screen on a kindle

I actually see this a lot, with authors who are asking if it’s okay to email other authors about mistakes, or direct message them to inform them of errors. This isn’t the first time I’ve seen someone ask about the actual reporting feature on a Kindle either, and it just makes me so confused as to why someone would waste the energy to do something like this while they’re supposedly reading for pleasure.

This is one of the big reasons I don’t promo my books where other authors hang out. I have never met a more judgmental or pickier group. And not only are they judgmental and picky, they are not afraid to let others know. The reporting system on a Kindle is anonymous, but just the fact that she posted that on Threads tells me she actually uses it, or wanted to use it. Maybe the responses changed her mind, but knowing she would think about it gives me the ick and I don’t want her reading my books.

I’ve given this some thought as to why authors would want to police someone’s book:

So they can feel better about their own writing. I know this is a pretty crappy reason, and maybe that tells you something about me that I mentioned it first. I think the worst of people? Maybe, but I’ve also seen it enough that I do think authors enjoy being able to report typos or call a book out for bad editing. They like to feel like their books are better than someone else’s. It’s not a terrible thing, really. I think we all have read a book that we thought was bad and said, “If this book is a bestseller, then my books have a chance.” We need the validation, but that’s not a good way to go about getting it. Putting someone else down, even in the guise of being helpful, will never lift you up. It might make you feel better for a little bit, but as most authors become aware, what goes around comes around, and someone reading your book may not take so kindly to your typos, either. And trust me, no matter how many times you go through it, you’ll publish your book with a couple.

They really do want to be helpful. I don’t jump completely to negative assumptions–there are authors out there who genuinely want to tell an author what the problems are in their books so the authors can fix them. The problem is, not everyone has access to their files. If they’re traditionally published, or if they’re published by a small press, telling them about the typos, or plot holes, or that the male main character’s eye color changed halfway through the book, won’t help. You can report it, sure, maybe eventually Amazon will alert the author of the quality issues and prompt their publisher to submit the edits (from what I know this would be very unlikely), but what good is that going to do? You can email, but if every person emailed that author about their typos and they can’t do anything, think of how defeating that would be. You get an email once a week about an issue you can’t fix….how demoralizing that is. Detrimental to that author’s mental health, even. So you being helpful can turn into anything but being helpful.

I understand that you might want to help an author fix their book, but after publication is not the time for that. If you truly want to help, help a writer beta read, or offer to proofread. That book you’re so eager to give feedback on, that book could have gone through multiple rounds of editing, or maybe that author couldn’t afford an editor at all, did the best they could, and you’re rubbing salt in their wounds by needing to mention all the typos, words used in the wrong context, and punctuation errors.

Writers and authors have a really difficult time turning off their editing brains to read for pleasure. It’s part of the reason I don’t read as much as I should. It’s difficult for me to find authors whose writing styles I mesh with. Sometimes I don’t like the author’s voice from the first page, and it takes me a chapter or two to let go of my dislikes and get into the story. I, too, am picky, and I dislike characters who don’t act their age, or dual point of view books that have too much of the female point of view and not enough of the male’s. I’ve read books where the author couldn’t decide between past and present tense, books where the author (or editor) didn’t know how to punctuate dialogue. Books that didn’t take time to flesh out characters. Never, not in my wildest dreams, have I ever wanted to report an error through my Kindle, email an author, or direct message them. I would never take the time to edit a book like that or tell them that something they were doing didn’t work for me. Chances are really good that they wouldn’t care anyway, so when you think about reaching out to an author, figure out what you want the outcome to be. Do you want them to thank you? Is gratitude what you’re after? Will you be disappointed if you don’t get a response? What would you say if they wrote back and said, “Thanks for letting me know, but I’m published with a small press and I can’t do anything.”? Apologize for saying something? Not respond? Get embarrassed and crawl into a hole? Because that’s what I would do if that happened to me. You have no idea what an author’s circumstances are, and even if you are coming from a sincere place of wanting to help, you could be doing more harm than good.

I’ve known authors who police books, giving “honest” reviews, or even editing snippets of books on Twitter, and it’s never great when it comes back to them (and Karma’s like a Boomerang–it will). I keep my nose out of people’s business. Years ago I used to write “honest” reviews, too, even some on this blog that I have since trashed because it was a hard lesson learned that no one is better than anyone else and we’re all in this together.

If you just can’t stop yourself from emailing an author, at least offer to beta read their next book or join their ARC team. Offer some help instead of just emailing them a list of typos and expecting a thank you. Be kind and realize that they may actually not want your help. They might not be able to do anything with it, anyway. I’ve seen vindictiveness and I’ve also seen it returned. Instead of focusing all that energy on someone else’s book, concentrate on yours. It will be better spent.

Editor Interview: Kimberly Hunt

I met Kimberly on Twitter some time back, and I’m a member of her Facebook group, Revision Division. We’re also members of Romance Editor Q & A since I do a little editing myself and keep up the skill not only for my own books but for those I edit for on the side. I appreciate Kimberly’s time, and I hope you enjoy the answers to all the questions she so graciously filled out for me.


Introduce yourself! How did you get into editing and what are your qualifications? What genres do you enjoy editing most?
C.S. Lewis said “You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream.” This is exactly what I did. After twenty years in the corporate world, I took a sabbatical and it shook my world to realize how amazing it is to fill my day with activities I’m passionate about. I have always enjoyed my work and the companies that employed me, so it was jarring to realize I could be happier. Before I set off on a vacation volunteering in Peru, a friend of the family asked if I’d read a novel he’d written. The story was amazing, but I couldn’t get past the number of errors. This was my inspiration to look into copyediting. My natural ability to spot punctuation, usage, grammar, and spelling errors lent itself well to copyediting, so I took courses to start there. My education introduced trusted resources like dictionaries and style guides and working with publishers taught me how to create and maintain a style sheet for consistency. The more advanced courses I took revealed my true passion is earlier in the process, with developmental editing. I love assessing the big picture elements like structure, plot, pace, point of view, and character development to help writers improve their stories. I love editing romance the most but I also enjoy editing women’s fiction, mystery, and psychological thrillers. I’ve edited all heat levels and time periods but prefer steamy contemporary.

There’s the saying that a writer needs to write a million words before they can write something publishable. Do you agree with this? Why or why not?
Whoa, that’s a loaded question without a simple answer! On one hand I don’t agree with the limitations of hitting an exact word count and refraining from sharing your work until it’s perfect. We grow and learn from making mistakes. I definitely don’t think writers should wait for an arbitrary milestone to publish. On the other hand, I agree with the sentiment of the saying where putting in the hours and the work makes for a better quality product in the end. Have you read Malcom Gladwell’s Outliers? He has a point about it taking 10,000 hours to become exceptional at something.

What is the biggest mistake you see indie writers making right now? (For example, info dumps at the beginning of their book, not enough conflict, too much tell vs. show, etc.)
I’ll admit I had to give this question some thought because I see such a wide variety of manuscripts with different issues. Considering both the unpublished manuscripts I edit and the completed books I read for pleasure, I’d say the biggest challenge seems to be related to pace because conflict is tricky. Many authors struggle to create believable conflict that escalates. Each chapter needs a purpose where the complications grow and the consequences are impactful. Many of my developmental editing projects require suggesting solutions for improving chapters without clear purpose. It’s hard to move the plot forward if the reader doesn’t know what the character wants, why they want it, or what stands in their way.

There’s a lot of talk about whether or not it’s necessary to have a manuscript edited before querying. What are your thoughts?
Most of my clients are independent authors, but I have helped several writers improve their story and polish with a copyedit prior to querying. I have more than one data point for authors gaining representation and eventually signing publishing contracts, but I can’t take credit for those achievements. Their storytelling talent far outshines my knowledge of where a comma goes. But as a businessperson who has reviewed cover letters and resumes before hiring someone, that first impression needs to be solid, so editing before querying could be beneficial even if it’s not required.

How do you keep the author’s voice intact while also guiding them with suggestions on how to make their book the best it can be?
Great question! My job is to point out both what works well and areas for improvement. I give suggested solutions in comments or in a revision letter for the more lengthy explanations. Changes made directly in the manuscript are usually corrections to indisputable errors. I reference Merriam-Webster dictionary and the Chicago Manual of Style to support the corrections I propose. When line editing, I tread carefully to make sure I’m respecting the author’s voice while keeping concision and clarity a priority.

Is there ever a time when a book would require too much work? What do you tell a writer whose book isn’t ready for a professional edit? What resources do you refer them to?
This has happened a few times. Sometimes an eager writer finishes that first draft and jumps to the editing stage too soon. Revision and self-editing are recommended in these cases and I often provide resources for finding critique partners or offer to take on the project as a writing coach instead if the manuscript isn’t ready for editing yet.

What advice can you offer an author who can’t afford a professional edit? Are there things they can do to sharpen their own self-editing skills?
Definitely! These tips don’t replace the value of working with a professional editor, but they do offer some cost-savings if you can self-edit as much as possible first. I have a bunch of videos and blog posts on this subject on https://revisiondivision.com/tips but here is my best advice: read aloud to yourself, others, or have Word read it aloud to you. You’d be amazed by how much this trick catches. It will highlight awkward flow and bring attention to missed words and sneaky errors.

As an editor, it’s important you’re honest and give critical and actionable feedback. How do you offer this feedback so a writer doesn’t take it personally?
Diplomacy. I aim to provide valuable feedback through constructive criticism AND praise. By pointing out a writer’s strengths and showing in their manuscript where something works well, they learn and grow. On a scale of one to ten, with one being a Positive Pollyanna and ten being brutally honest, I’m probably a moderate four. I’m a professional and my training emphasized how to provide actionable feedback tactfully.

Are there any other tips or thoughts you would like to add about editing or publishing?
Adding on to that last question, I’d like to encourage writers to expect good and bad feedback. But they shouldn’t react right away in order to avoid an emotionally defensive response. Edits can be overwhelming. After initially receiving feedback, it’s a good idea to set it aside and digest. See what resonates and come back to it later to make a plan for revisions. Most importantly, do not give up.

Thank you for this opportunity to talk about something I’m so passionate about. 😊


Thank you, Kimberly, for your time!

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Monday Author Update: Spring is Here!

There isn’t a whole lot going on with me–I’m in surgery today and I have some great guest posts lined up for the next three weeks. Barbara Avon is writing about being a multi-genre author on April 4th. She’ll also have a new book out by then, so watch for that! Vera Brook will be blogging about the benefits of writing short fiction, and that will post on April 11th, and I interviewed Paranormal Romance and Urban Fantasy author SJ Cairns for the 18th. That interview will have a giveaway, as well, so make sure you pop in!


I’m still plugging away trying to rewrite sentences to “take” out take and make out of my manuscripts. Those are just two crutch words I fell back on when I switched to 1st person present and I didn’t notice. After this series, I’m going to read over my reader magnet again and buff that up. While I start to build my newsletter signups after I edit my reader magnet one more time, I’ll have to edit my duet again. I mean, those words aren’t crazy to the point where the books sound bad or I would have hopefully noticed a lot sooner, but I can’t deny that the sentences are stronger when they’re rewritten. It’s such a drag, especially since I probably used those words in ALL my books, and I have two more books in a series I started and four more standalones that I’ll need to re-edit.

If you want to know what I’m talking about, I’ll give you an example:

Zarah will have that same power. I see glimpses of it when she’s feeling good. It makes me proud of her, but her legacy isn’t something I can comprehend.

This is a sentence from the fourth book of my series. You can see the “makes me proud” part of that sentence. I do that…all the time. In this example, it’s easy to fix it from that to simply, I’m proud of her, but her legacy isn’t something I can comprehend.

You might not think it’s a big deal, but when I do this 250 times in an 80k novel, it’s a bit much.

Another example is something like this: She stands from the couch and takes the pill bottle I gave her off her desk.

Rewriting this is simple too: She stands from the couch and lifts the pill bottle I gave her off her desk.

I use “takes” a lot as a verb (I used the word on average 200 times per novel) and it’s as boring as “got” and “get.” (In the book I’m reading now–the author uses “get” 300 times, and “got” 164 times, which is really distracting. But she doesn’t have my problem, and she uses “takes” only 70 times. Haha. We all have our issues.)

It’s not difficult to find a better verb, and the sentence is stronger and reads better.

As I said, it’s not time consuming, but when my brain is stuck, figuring out a different way to say the same thing can be difficult.

That pushes back my launch of my duet even longer than I had anticipated, surgery aside, but I’m trying to convince myself that’s a good thing. I want to launch this pen name strong, start off with a solid foundation because I’m tired of doing things the wrong way and wondering why nothing is working. And the very last thing I want to do is publish a book and have to re-edit it. I hate that. Part of my process for this new pen name is to try like hell not to mess up a release so I don’t have to go back and fix anything.

So, that’s my life. Editing, trying to set things up so I can launch my duet. My best hope now is to have my duet out this summer sometime. I don’t need long to re-edit a book, but sometimes I feel like it I need a lot of brainpower to rewrite a sentence. It’s actually pretty easy, but when your brain is stuck on something, you need to jiggle it loose and figure out another way to say the same thing. I don’t aim to take out all of them–I believe you can edit so much you edit out your style and your voice and I don’t want to do that–but now that I see them, I can’t unsee them, and I can see where my brain would get stuck in that rhythm while I was writing.


There’s a lot of talk about writing conferences this year, but I’m not going anywhere. Not because of COVID, just because I have so much in virtual stuff both paid and free to get through that I don’t have time to go anywhere. As much as I would love to be able to network in person, I would like to have some books out too, so I’m focusing on editing, publishing, and building my newsletter through social media while trying to consume the content I’ve paid for.

On a happier note, I looked at MailerLite’s emails, and they aren’t getting rid of their classic design. I don’t need to redo or relearn anything when it comes to my newsletter, so that was welcome news. But since I upgraded to a BookFunnel’s integration I’ll need to figure that out before I start promoting my reader magnet.


The Six Figure Author Podcast with Lindsay Buroker, Jo Lallo, and Andrea Pearson is ending soon. I was pretty bummed when they announced it during their last episode, but I can see where the podcast would be time consuming. Jo said in the comments of this episode they’re leaving their FB group up, so that’s nice. It’s a great resource for indie authors, and maybe they’ll post their career updates there instead of sharing on their podcast. If you want to listen to their latest episode, you can find it here:

I will try to update you all when I’m feeling better, probably on a Thursday since Mondays are booked for the next three weeks (which takes a lot off my mind) and I’m thankful I have friends willing to help me when I’m in a tight spot.

I hope you enjoy the guest posts and enjoy the warming temperatures! I know I will.

Working on your craft: Can you publish without an editor?

So, there was an interesting question that came up in one of my Facebook writing groups, and essentially, she asked, Can you really make a living publishing without an editor?

Considering that’s what I’m trying to do with my new pen name because I can’t afford to hire out, it piqued my interest.

All the answers, as you would imagine said, of course you need an editor. I was the only one who said, not so fast. There are a lot of variables when deciding something like that, and some of the questions I threw back at her were, How long have you been writing? Have you ever gotten feedback before, like, ever? Do you have a good memory to keep track of your own (in)consistencies and details? If you don’t know how to write a catchy beginning, avoid a saggy middle, create interesting and meaningful character arcs, and know your grammar and punctuation backward and forward, then you’ll probably need help. (It also helps immensely if you know what you don’t know and have the wherewithal to look it up.) During the first couple of years when decided to try write books to publish, I needed help, and I did use editors and beta readers. That was back when I had a large circle of friends who were willing to trade or charge very little and we all came through for each other. Now most of those friends are gone, and I’m alone. I said in my post, if you’ve written enough words to find your voice and style, then you’re one step ahead of most newbie authors. I’ve edited for a few new writers, and no amount of good editing will fix bad writing. The writer first has to give you something to work with, and if s/he doesn’t….

If you, or the original poster of that question, are looking for an easy way out, there isn’t one. Writing is like any other skill and it takes practice and a knowledge of the genre you’re trying to write in.

I admit, I love a writing craft book, and I read them all, but some of them get too formulaic, and I can’t follow. I tried reading Save the Cat! Writes a Novel: The Last Book On Novel Writing You’ll Ever Need by Jessica Brody, and it just wasn’t for me. (She also has a blog that you may find helpful.) The way Jessica broke down a novel’s components made my head spin. Another book I’ve read, (though not recently) is Romancing the Beat: Story Structure for Romance Novels (How to Write Kissing Books) by Gwen Hayes. Romance authors a million times over swear by this book, but I just couldn’t make it work for me. And it’s not because I’m a pantser and want to write as I discover the story. I’m a plantser, and have a general idea of how I want the story to go, what the characters’ backstories are and their emotional wounds from their pasts that haven’t healed and how they affect their futures, which is what any romance book is about. But turning writing into a formula, or consciously chopping up my plot into the three act structure is really difficult for me to grasp and I can’t do it. The only two things I do with regards to planning that way is making sure something happens at the 50% mark to avoid the saggy middle (the Mirror Moment as James Scott Bell calls it), and breaking up my characters around the 75% mark, because that’s most what romances do. To be honest, them breaking up and thinking all hope is lost is my favorite part of any romance, and I would do it anyway.

When you’re a new writer, betas or developmental editors are valuable. They’ll tell you where the story drags, if you’ve rushed your ending, if your characters have no substance, and over time, if you listen to their feedback, your writing will smooth out and you’ll start to include those elements naturally. I don’t think any writer who is writing a debut novel will have all that figured out, never mind having written enough to find their voice and style. It’s why whenever I see a writer saying they are querying their first ever book, I say good luck, because chances are, your book will sound like you’re a brand new writer, and an agent can’t sell that.

It’s really not fair, because a lot of good writing comes from gut instinct, or following an intuition that you’ve honed over a million words. You develop your own formula based on genre expectations and how you twist those reader expectations to make your tropes fresh and new. All that comes with practice and listening to feedback.

Once you have your voice and style down, once you know you can deliver to your readers, then yeah, I think you don’t need an editor, not someone who will deep-clean your manuscript, though it does mystify me how many people get angry when I say it. (I even left a Facebook group over it.) I don’t know if it’s because they resent having to use an editor, or are just defensive of indie publishing as a whole and how much crap is published on, let’s face it, a daily basis, or what. I really don’t know what makes people so mad when I say it, but that doesn’t make it less untrue. Besides, no one has any idea how hard someone will work not to need an editor. I read craft books like crazy, read in my genre (though not as much as I should) and write. Maybe that’s the issue people have? They aren’t writing? Look, it doesn’t matter who you are, you need to practice to get better, and that goes for anything you want to try to master. Olympic gold medalists have been honing their skills in their chosen sports since childhood. Same as musicians. But I suppose if you have twenty hours a week to write, and you’re talking to someone who only has five free hours a week, yeah, maybe there will be a little resentment there. I write a lot. I don’t have many friends, I work from home, I don’t go out much. When I’m not working, doing chores, running errands, or going to Tuesday movie night with my sister, I’m writing. That’s not something I’m going to apologize for, and neither should you if someone is giving you a hard time.

In reality, it’s a moot point, anyway. I know 6 and 7 figure authors with one-star reviews that say they needed an editor, when I know that hiring an editor is part of their publishing process. You won’t please everyone, so you might as well be honest. If you need help, get help, and if you can write a good story without help, don’t worry about it. You can’t achieve perfection, and I’ve already said this will be the last time I go through my 6 book series. I will ALWAYS be able to find something to change, but I need to let them go. I’m tired and I have many other stories in my head that I want to get onto the page.

So, how do you make your writing better, level up so you don’t need an editor?

Read a lot in your genre. A lot of developmental editing is finding those tropes and elements that make your genre what it is and helping you meet those reader expectations. You won’t know what those expectations are unless you read a lot in your genre. I know this stinks like writing to market, but every genre, be it romance, domestic thrillers, detective novels, have elements that you can’t leave out or you’ll just make readers mad. Writing a good story is all about the overall picture as much as knowing where your commas go.

Listen to feedback early in your career. When I first started writing again, it took me a lot of feedback to find my groove. My very first beta who volunteered pointed out all the “justs” and “thats” and that was my first lesson in filler words. That was a great start to learning what I was doing wrong. Another beta/editor told me to trust my readers because I had a habit of “reminding” them of what they’ve read in previous chapters. That was another great lesson, and one I still apply today when I find myself rehashing information. Repetition is tedious and boring. Echoing was another thing people pointed out to me, and I still do it, and it’s part of my editing to delete or replace repeated words. That’s one of the reasons why I’m going through my series again when I thought I was done. Because I found a couple of words that I used over and over and over again and I wanted to tighten up my sentences. Those are words I will always watch out for now, and you can make your own list of filler and crutch words to refer back to when you’re creating your own editing process.

Work on new projects. I learned a lot working on different books, and it’s the only way you’ll be able to practice crafting an engaging plot. As Kathryn Kristen Rusch says, rewriting will only teach you rewriting. You need to work on fresh projects to move forward.

Realize it will take time. “They” say you need to write a million words before you find your voice. I think that’s true–I wrote a 5 book fantasy series that will never see the light of day, plus a few novellas, and a book that would turn into book one of my first trilogy before I found my stride. That was in 3rd person past. I wrote a quarter of a million words in first person present before I found my voice in that POV, and I can tell reading through my series. That’s why I was so paranoid editing these books–I wanted book one to sound like book five, and it did take me a few extra thousand words added to books one, two, and three for them to smooth out and sound as good as books four, five, and six.

I feel bad for the beginning writer with no writing friends or money for resources. But as they say, if you don’t have money to spend, then you have to spend time, and that might mean swapping projects with another author who is in the same position as you. That’s not a bad thing. You can learn a lot editing for someone else, so it’s a great idea to join author groups on Facebook and make friends with authors who write in your genre. You’ll get help, and you’ll help others, so it’s a win-win for you and your writing career.

This was a very long introduction to what was supposed to be a list of craft books that have helped me. I linked to Save the Cat Writes a Novel and Romancing the Beat above. Just because they didn’t work for me, doesn’t mean they won’t work for you, and you should definitely give them a try.

It’s surprising but one of the books that helped me a lot isn’t necessarily a craft book. It’s The Bestseller Code: Anatomy of the Blockbuster Novel by Jodie Archer and Matthew L. Jockers. This breaks down why bestsellers sell the way they do. This might be my favorite book in the whole world because it mixes craft and the publishing industry. I love it. I can’t recommend it enough.

The second book that changed my life is Tiffany Yates Martin’s book, Intuitive Editing: A Creative and Practical Guide to Revising Your Writing. I love everything about this book. She reminded me about conflict, character arcs, character motivation, and stakes. Important elements that, if you skip or miss, will make any book fall flat. You need tension, and this book will help you find it. There’s even a section that mentions other editing resources if you can’t hire out. If you like audiobooks, she posted on Twitter she narrated it herself! (She also blogs, and you can sign up for her newsletter.)

Though I haven’t read it for a long time, it was one of the first self-editing books I ever read, and it helped me a lot: Self-Editing On a Penny: A Comprehensive Guide by Ashlyn Forge.

This book made so much sense. It was a real eye-opener, and now I recommend it to every new author: VOICE: The Secret Power of Great Writing (Bell on Writing) by James Scott Bell.

When I went to the Santa Barbara Writer’s Conference a few years ago, every agent in attendance said this book is a must have. I do have it, and it’s a great resource: Self-Editing for Fiction Writers, Second Edition: How to Edit Yourself Into Print by Renni Browne and Dave King.

Someone recommended this book to me, and his sense of humor keeps this book from reading like a textbook–it was an enjoyable read, and I also learned a lot: Dreyer’s English: An Utterly Correct Guide to Clarity and Style by Benjamin Dreyer.

And last, but not least, Mignon Fogarty’s grammar guide is a must have. Written in a light, conversational tone, Grammar Girl is easy to understand, and she goes through everything you need to learn grammar and punctuation for all of your writing projects: Grammar Girl’s Quick and Dirty Tips for Better Writing (Quick & Dirty Tips) (Quick & Dirty Tips)

This post turned into its own animal, and that’s okay. Thanks for reading if you’ve gotten this far. In an age where everything is pay to play, including beta readers, even if you have plans to hire out, making your manuscript as perfect as possible will save you money. The less your editor/proofer has to do for you, the better for your wallet. You’ll never regret teaching yourself as much as you can. I haven’t.

Thanks for reading!

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